Qatar Balks At Saudi Ultimatum That Would Force It To Surrender Sovereignty

Immediately after Saudi Arabia and its Gulf State client shiekdoms released an ultimatum containing 13 demands to which Qatar must agree as a precondition for the resumption of diplomatic ties and an end of the Saudi economic and naval blockade, the tiny kingdom on the Persian Gulf described the ultimatum as neither “reasonable” nor “realistic”, and claimed it would infringe on Qatar’s sovereignty. 

“This list of demands confirms what Qatar has said from the beginning – the illegal blockade has nothing to do with combating terrorism, it is about limiting Qatar’s sovereignty, and outsourcing our foreign policy” said  Sheikh Saif Al Thani, of Qatar’s official communications office, according to Bloomberg.

The full list contained demands  such as reducing Qatar’s diplomatic representation in Iran, cancelling the Turkish military base being established there (Turkey has already balked at the threat), severing ties with terrorist organizations, shutting down Al Jazeera and all affiliated channels, and so on. The demands are explicitly aimed at dismantling Qatar’s two-decade-old interventionist foreign policy, which has reflected the clout generated by its vast natural gas and oil wealth but incensed conservative Arab peers over its alleged support for extremist groups they regard as threats to their dynastic rule.

Al Thani dismissed the demands and said the list is “under review”, but only “out of respect for our brothers in Kuwait” whose emissary delivered the Saudi demands on Friday (22 June). Al Thani said that the demands do not meet the US and UK criteria for “reasonable and realistic measures.”

Meanwhile Qatar’s Foreign Ministry said it will soon issue an official response, one which we doubt Saudi Arabia will like as the bid/ask in the early stage of the negotiations is being established. 

“The State of Qatar is currently studying this paper, the demands contained therein and the foundations on which they were based, in order to prepare an appropriate response,” the ministry told Channel News Asia.

On Friday, Qatar’s news outlet Al Jazeera responded to Saudi demands that it be shut down as part of the “renormalization” process. “We in the network believe that any call for closing down Al Jazeera is nothing but an attempt to silence the freedom of expression in the region and to suppress people’s right to information,” Al Jazeera said in a statement.

“By accepting those demands and conditions Qatar will be subject to international accountability and violating its commitments regarding human rights conventions,” Qatar’s National Human Rights Committee said in a statement cited by Reuters.

Meanwhile, a senior United Arab Emirates official told Reuters what would happen if Qatar refused to comply with the Arab ultimatum, saying there would be a “parting of ways.”

“The alternative is not escalation, the alternative is parting of ways, because it is very difficult for us to maintain a collective grouping,” UAE Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash told reporters.

Gargash urged Qatar to meet the demands. “It would be wiser that [Qatar] deal seriously with the demands and concerns of the neighbors or a divorce will take place,” Anwar Gargash said on Twitter in Arabic, adding, that “the crisis is profound.”


UAE Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash

In other words, another attempt at a backdoor deal orchestrated by Saudi Arabia failed because someone leaked something, only this time it didn’t involve Trump being a KGB secret agent.

Gargash said that if Qatar fails to comply within the 10-day timeline set out in the ultimatum, it will be isolated. But he did not make clear what more could be done since the four Arab nations have already cut diplomatic relations with Doha and severed most commercial ties.

Despite verbal assurances that there will be no further escalation, Qatar is preparing for the worst, as two contingents of Turkish troops with columns of armored vehicles have arrived in Doha since the worst crisis among Gulf Arab states for years erupted on June 5.

The uncompromising positions adopted by both sides leave little prospect for a quick end to the crisis. The sanctions have disrupted Qatar’s main import routes by land from Saudi Arabia and by sea from big container ships docked in the United Arab Emirates. But Qatar so far has avoided economic collapse by quickly finding alternative channels (mainly through Iran which made the Saudis even more pissed off) and says its huge financial reserves will meet any challenges.

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Germany Foreign Minister Warns Qatar Crisis Could Lead To War As Qatar Asks Moscow For Support

10 June, 2017

German foreign minister Sigmar Gabriel is worried that the blockade of air and sea ports in Qatar by Saudi Arabia and its Muslim extremist allies in the middle east could lead to a new regional war in the Gulf region. In an interview with  Germany’s Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, he said “There is a danger that this dispute could lead to war” This would represent a “dramatic” escalation in tensions between Qatar and neighbouring countries in the Gulf.

Gabriel said personal talks this week with his the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey, and phone calls with the foreign ministers of Iran and Kuwait underscored his concerns. “After my talks this week, I know how serious the situation is, but I believe there are also good chances to make progress,” he concluded.

Gabriel also referred to a phone conversation with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on the Gulf situation on Friday and said that Tillerson showed a “very wise and prudent attitude” that has contributed to calming the conflict.

Yet while Tillerson was “calming” the conflict, President Trump appeared to be adding fire to it, when the president accused Qatar of being a “high level” funder of terrorism even as the Pentagon and Tillerson cautioned against the military, commercial and humanitarian effects of a blockade imposed by Arab states and others. Trump is talking bollocks of course, while its true that Qatar does support terrorist activity, both Saudi Arabia and the USA are far bigger suppliers of arms, money and expertise to terrorist organisations.

Today Saudi Arabia and Bahrain welcomed Trump’s demand for Qatar to stop supporting terrorism, but did not respond to a U.S. Department of State call for them to ease pressure on the tiny but wealthy Gulf state. After severing ties with Qatar on Monday, Saudi Arabia said it was committed to “decisive and swift action to cut off all funding sources for terrorism” in a statement carried by state news agency SPA, attributed to “an official source”.

The real cause of the conflict is not Qatar’s support for terrorism of course, but its abandonment of support for the US / Saudi pet project of an oil and gas pipeline from The Gulf through Syrian territory to the Mediterranean.It seems the Qatari’s have grasped the idea that Assad, with support from Iran and Russia, is winning the war against ISIS despite US and Saudi intervention in support of the Islamic extremists.

A separate SPA report on acknowledged Tillerson’s call for Qatar to curtail support for terrorism, but did not mention his concession that apart from was hurting ordinary Qataris and impairing business dealings in The Gulf it is also harming the U.S. fight against the Islamic State militant group. Saudi Arabia said its action followed the conclusions of last month’s Arab Islamic American Summit in Riyadh, where Trump delivered a speech about Islamic extremism.

Meanwhile the joker in the middle eastern pack, Turkey’s President Recep Erdogan vowed to continue supporting Qatar. “Now, there are ones who are bothered because of us being together with our Qatari brothers or sending and exporting food supplies, drugs etc – no matter if they are in hunger or thirst – should excuse us. We will continue to give all our support to Qatar,” Erdogan said at an iftar (fast-breaking meal) with members of his AK Party in Istanbul, quoted by RT.

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The leader of the country’s biggest union – supposed to be campaigning to stay inside the EU – said it had led to ‘sustained pressure on living standards, a systematic attempt to hold down wages and to cut the costs of social provision for working people’.

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And yet the cupid stunt has been supporting REMAIN even though the EU commission want to bring in Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo and Macedonoia – nothing wrong with them of course except that they are all basket case economies that us poor taxpayers will be expected to prop up. And Juncker said this week that the day after our referendum is our of the way, the EU starts working to get the 77,000,000 citizens of terrorist state and ally of ISIS in as a full member.
 
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Were Hungary to appy for EU membership now, under its current government, it would be rejected,  former NATO secretary-general and EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana has said. It’s not surprising that a democratically elected government like that of Hungary, which tries to put the welfare of its people head of the political and economic ambitions of the global elites would arrtact the ire of the European Union’s bureaucratic dictatorship, which is quite happy to endorse the accession to full membership of terrorist state Turkey, which is know to have aided and funded the activities if Islamist terror group ISIS in Syria, Iraq and Kurdistan.

Solana said his intention was to raise concerns about the “epidemic of nationalism” across the bloc. Citizens of EU nations need to unite to raise concerns about the increasing authoritarianism of the unelected bureaucrats who run the European Union.

While globalist EUronazis are worried by the actions of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, Solana’s raising questions about Hungary’s EU credentials if it were currently applying for membership should be seen as a threat to member nations that do not comply with the Brussels diktat.

“With the reform of the Constitution of 2013 some of the mechanisms that limited government action on key issues were eliminated,” Solana wrote in an opinion piece for Spanish newspaper El Pais.

“Also, a state council was established with members of the party itself, to regulate the media. It has been said that if today asked Hungary for membership in the European Union, would be rejected.”

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Along with Hungary, Solana also highlighted concerns he held about the direction of the government in Poland, saying an “epidemic of nationalism” had developed in the countries.

“Unfortunately, the epidemic of nationalism and anti-European sentiment has also reached these countries in Eastern Europe. Although there are many causes and countries are not easily comparable, there are two clear trends: the rise of nationalism and the decline of the rule of law.”

Instead of trying to cooperate within the EU to get their voices heard, Solana said Poland and Hungary were trying to “present European policies as challenges to their true national identity”.

Obviously Solana, like most of the elite, has a lot of trouble getting his head round the concept of democracy. Like the medieval aristocracy, who gained their position by conquest, these people think they are a superior species to the ‘downtrodden masses’. They need to be reminded very regularly that if they continue to act like dictators it is they who will be down and ‘we the people who will be doing the treading’.

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Turkey Will “Definitely” Join Ground Operation In Syria, Accuses Russia Of “War Crimes”

We have expressed our surprise at the forbearance of Russia’s leaders in the face of repeated provocative actions from the USA and Turkey. It seems however, Putin’s patience with the infantile Obama and the deranged Erdogan may not last much longer.Here are the latest headlines out of Russia where the defense ministry is at wit’s end with the Turks.

RUSSIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS ‘TERRORISTS’ IN SYRIA’S IDLIB AND ALEPPO PROVINCES CONTINUE TO RECEIVE WEAPONS AND REINFORCEMENTS FROM TURKISH TERRITORY

TURKEY IS LAUNCHING ‘MASSED’ ARTILLERY STRIKES ON SYRIAN GOVT FORCES AND ‘SYRIA’S PATRIOTIC OPPOSITION’ – RIA CITES RUSSIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY

Turkey shelled Syria for a fourth consecutive day on Tuesday as Ankara steps up its support for anti – Assad rebels in the face of attacks by the Kurdish YPG. “As many as 150 terrorists were killed during the 4-day-long shelling targeting PYD points,” the pro-government Yeni Safak wrote today, adding that “the PYD, backed by both the US and Russia, is working with President Bashar al-Assad to control areas along the Turkish border.”

The move by Russia and Iran to encircle Aleppo and cut rebel supply lines to Turkey has allowed the YPG to advance on towns near the border, effectively consolidating the group’s grip on northern Syria, where they’ve been highly successful at holding large swaths of territory.That constiutes a major setback for Ankara where President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is desperate to kill popular support for the pro-Kurdish HDP which, at least in the Turkish government’s view is merely the political arm of the PKK.

Erdogan doesn’t distinguish between the PKK (which both Turkey and the US officially designate as a terror group) and the YPG. The US, on the other hand, openly supports the Syrian Kurds and has backed their advances with airstrikes (they can hardly do otherwise having been the prime mover in the creation of an autonomous Kurdistan in Iraqi territory. Ankara fears that if the YPG are allowed to bridge the territory they control east of the Euphrates with territory they control west of the river, they will effectively establish a proto-state on the border which would embolden the PKK to try something similar in southeast Turkey where Turkish Kurds are already pushing for autonomy.

 There are good reasons to suspect that Turkey will not only persist in the shelling of Azaz from gun emplacements within its own territory, but will in fact invade Syria.

On Tuesday we got still more indications that a major escalation in Syria is imminent when Turkey said it would “definitely” participate in a ground operation. “It’s impossible to end the war without it,” an official told Bloomberg, speaking on the condition of anonymity. You see how that works? It’s the same logic that France employed when officials declared that the best way to halt the refugee crisis is to bomb Syria. It’s “impossible” to the end the war in Syria without … going to war in Syria. And of course we told you last monthe The White House was not only aware of this plan but was complicit in it.

The official also said there was no plan for a “unilateral” ground operation by Turkey or Saudi Arabia, but according to Yeni Safak newspaper’s Ankara correspondent, Turkey is planning to send troops 10km into Syria to establish “a safe zone.”

Meanwhile, Moscow and Ankara continue to accuse one another of being terrorists. What should be clear from the above is that there’s no telling who the Islamist rebels fighting to keep the Azaz corridor open are. It’s the same mishmash of Sunni militants fighting everywhere else in western Syria and though ISIS are not active in the area it seems likely that al Nusra and al Qaeda elements are present as well. As Russian PM Dmitri Medvedev recently told TIME, “they’re all bandits.”

Of course Russia isn’t entirely innocent. Although it’s impossible to verify reports, it seems possible that several Russian strikes hit hospitals on Monday, killing scores of civilians including some women and children. Ankara of course seized on the opportunity to accuse the Russians of being terrorists. “These attacks that we strongly condemn are unconscionable and obvious war crime under international law,” a statement from the Turkish foreign ministry reads. ” What is collateral damage when done by American drones becomes terrorism when done by America’s enemies.

The conclusion from all of this is simple: escalation imminent.

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Turkey Says “Massive Escalation” Under Way In Syria As Saudis Launch Airstrikes

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As US proxies in Syria, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, make threatening noises, Russia deployes 4 of its Su35 strike aircraft to the war zone – as if Putin is saying to NATO, “Come and have a go if you think you are hard enough”

Didn’t the leading military powers just agree to a ceasefire in Syria, you might well ask.

Well yes, just yesterday the print and television media was full of the ‘ceasefire’ the major powers had agreed to avert a humanitarian crisis in Syria. The usual suspects led by Scooby – doo villain lookalike John Kerry the Unites States Secretary of State mouth pious words about peace into the proffered microphones, paparazzi papped away with their cameras, breakthroughs were announced, <del>undeserving warmongers</del> world leaders were praised and everyone forgot the ISIS and Al Nusra Islamist groups who are involved in 99% of the fighting were not part of the agreement.

But the whole ceasefire thing was a scam. ISIS and al Nusra have been supported by the USA’s Central Intelligence Agency, funded by Turkey and armed by Saudi Arabia from the start.

So they are still bombing the allied coalition led by the USA and flicking V signs at Russian and Iranian forces because they daren’t actually shoot at the Russians in case it reveals to Putin’s boys where the rebels are hiding.

So it was looking like business as usual. Then we saw this:

Turkey Says “Massive Escalation” In Syria Imminent As Saudis Set To Launch Airstrikes

(from Zero hedge) Even as all sides – including the US, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and select rebel groups – pretend to be working towards a ceasefire and a diplomatic solution to the five year conflict in Syria, actions speak louder than words, and to put it as succinctly as possible, everyone is still fighting.

In fact, the fighting is more intense than ever. Russia and Hezbollah are closing in on Aleppo, the country’s largest city and a key urban center where rebels are dug in for what amounts to a last stand. If the city is liberated by the government (and yes, “liberated” is more accurate than “falls” because occupied territory belongs to the Syrian government, not to Sunni extremists), Assad will have regained control of the country’s backbone in the west.

That would effectively mean the end of the rebellion and the Gulf monarchies, not to mention Turkey, are not happy about it. “The main battle is about cutting the road between Aleppo and Turkey, for Turkey is the main conduit of supplies for the terrorists,” Assad said in an interview with AFP on Friday.

That supply line has been severed and now, it’s do or die time for the rebels’ Sunni benefactors in Ankara, Riyadh, and Doha. Either intervene or watch as Hezbollah rolls up the opposition under cover of Russian airstrikes, restoring the Assad government and securing the Shiite crescent for the Iranians.

As we documented extensively this week, the Saudis and the Turks are now set to invade. Assad has promised to “confront them”, which of course means that the IRGC and Hassan Nasrallah’s army are set to come into direct contact with Turkish and Saudi troops, setting the stage for an all-out sectarian war that will almost invariably end up pitting NATO against the Russians. Note that this is different from Yemen, where Tehran fights via proxies rather than directly against the Saudi military.

On Saturday the stakes were raised when Turkey said Saudi Arabia is set to send warplanes to Incirlik.

As a reminder, access to Incirlik was the carrot Erdogan used last summer to convince NATO to acquiesce to Ankara’s brutal crackdown on the PKK. “Let me wage war against my political rivals, and you can use our airbase,” is a fair approximation of Erdogan’s proposition.

Now, it appears the Saudis are set to use the base as a staging ground for strikes in Syria.

We new media journos tend to be ahead of the wave in news reporting of course (well those of us who can enter and move around in ‘the dark web’ without trepidation anyway – it’s not all private data for sale, malware merchants, goat porn and bomb making instructions you know) so over a week ago I was able to report:

Turkey and Sadui Arabia Already Have Troops Fighting In Syria

Now the Turkish government is admitting the ‘ceasefire is a joke:

from Zero Hedge:
Even as all sides – including the US, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and select rebel groups – pretend to be working towards a ceasefire and a diplomatic solution to the five year conflict in Syria, actions speak louder than words, and to put it as succinctly as possible, everyone is still fighting.

In fact, the fighting is more intense than ever. Russia and Hezbollah are closing in on Aleppo, the country’s largest city and a key urban center where rebels are dug in for what amounts to a last stand. If the city is liberated by the government (and yes, “liberated” is more accurate than “falls” because occupied territory belongs to the Syrian government, not to Sunni extremists), Assad will have regained control of the country’s backbone in the west.

That would effectively mean the end of the rebellion and the Gulf monarchies, not to mention Turkey, are not happy about it. “The main battle is about cutting the road between Aleppo and Turkey, for Turkey is the main conduit of supplies for the terrorists,” Assad said in an interview with AFP on Friday.

That supply line has been severed and now, it’s do or die time for the rebels’ Sunni benefactors in Ankara, Riyadh, and Doha. Either intervene or watch as Hezbollah rolls up the opposition under cover of Russian airstrikes, restoring the Assad government and securing the Shiite crescent for the Iranians.

As we documented extensively this week, the Saudis and the Turks are now set to invade. Assad has promised to “confront them”, which of course means that the IRGC and Hassan Nasrallah’s army are set to come into direct contact with Turkish and Saudi troops, setting the stage for an all-out sectarian war that will almost invariably end up pitting NATO against the Russians. Note that this is different from Yemen, where Tehran fights via proxies rather than directly against the Saudi military.

On Saturday the stakes were raised when Turkey said Saudi Arabia is set to send warplanes to Incirlik.

As a reminder, access to Incirlik was the carrot Erdogan used last summer to convince NATO to acquiesce to Ankara’s brutal crackdown on the PKK. “Let me wage war against my political rivals, and you can use our airbase,” is a fair approximation of Erdogan’s proposition.

Now, it appears the Saudis are set to use the base as a staging ground for strikes in Syria.

Realistically we think this Turkish / Saudi action will amount to to little more than a calculated provocation to Russia NATO might want war against Russia and China, but they don’t want to fire the first shot because the public opinion backlash will undermine the push for global government which is the real agenda behind all this shite.

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Is Turkey Being Used To Kick Off WWIII By Washington?

 The shooting down of A Russian bomber, without due cause (the plane never crossed into Turkish airspace) a couple of weeks ago, the outing of Turkey as the main buyer of ISIS oil and middle man in the supply of US arms and ammunition to the terrorists, two naval incidents involving Russian and Turkish ships, one in The Aegean and one in The Black Sea. And now more evidence emerges that Turkey is being used by Washington in its attempts to provoke Russia into firing the shot that will echo around the world and kick off global conflict.

The Washington hawks are playing a very dangerous game here. We know that Russia has military technology in advance of what the USA has (but hey, the US is streets ahead in terms of equal rights for gay soldiers) and Chinas, as Russia’s ally bound to join and conflict in support of Moscow, is even further ahead, while Iran is a significant military power.
If a shooting war does start, the odds against a western victory would have to be very long before I would risk a bet.

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