Troll Alert – disinformation trolls sighted near Boggart Blog, shoot them on sight.
Regular readers may have noticed that while Boggart Blog’s editor was busy with other things, the team carried on endeavouring with the persistence of old fashioned investigative reporters who wore grubby Aquascutum raincoats and battered brown trilby hats tilted towards the back of their heads, always had a cigarette in their mouths and were never far from a glass of whisky (sorry, while we had builders in I rediscovered an old Dashiell Hammet novel) our efforts to present ALL the latest news and opinion on the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over Ukraine have attracted trolls who seem to work on the principle that any ideas straying from the FUKUS axis propaganda must be suppressed.
I’ll deal with them another time.
While media attention was focused on the accusations and denials, claims and counterclaims and general incoherent babble from the two sides, another strange episode was unfolding in Ukraine, the case of The Convoy That Never Existed.
A story that broke in mainstream media last Thursday (14 August). headlined by one online news site as Disinformation War In Ukraine Escalates”, it reported a Russian military convoy was attacked and almost completely “eliminated” on Ukraine territory on Thursday night, a statement which was also “confirmed” by none other than the Ukraine president, yet where not a single trace of evidence was released showing any such convoy destruction. Strange really because reporters from The Guardian and The Daily Telegraph reported having witnessed the burned out vehicles of the convoy “with their own eyes.” (echoing Gulf War Iraqi information minister Comical Ali.
So we were obviously in for yet another round of the war of disinformation, misinformation, deception, spin and downright lying, which we got on Sunday when Ukraine accused pro-Russian rebels on Monday of hitting a refugee convoy of buses with rocket fire near the eastern city of Luhansk, killing people trapped in the burning vehicles.
Andrei Purgin, deputy prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic countered by saying, “The Ukrainians themselves have bombed the road constantly with airplanes and Grads. It seems they’ve now killed more civilians like they’ve been doing for months now. We don’t have the ability to send Grads into that territory,” said .
Another rebel spokesman denied any civilian convoy had been struck, challenging the Kiev authorities to produce evidence. (Given the Kiev government or their supporters abysmal record on producing evidence to support Kiev’s claims, we would advise you not to hold your breath.)
So what if anything might have happened – and bear in mind that any statements from blog.co.uk’s resident simple minded scientist (read the comment thread under that link) to the effect that “Barack Obama says the Kiev regime are the good guys so they must be telling the truth,” do not constitute evidence.
Soon after reports of the alleged Ukrainian attack on Russia’s convoy hit western news feeds, the Russian defense ministry responded, saying that no Russian military column had crossed into Eastern Ukraine, and that reports were based on “some fantasies.”
This is where the breakdown of logic occurs, because for Russia to make such a formal statement the Russian government obviously believes there is no evidence of destruction of a Russian convoy in Ukraine territory, something which obviously would exist if indeed as Ukraine’s president had claimed, the “majority of the machines had been eliminated.”
If true, it also implies that either Ukraine had fabricated the entire story, and certainly the part about the destruction of the convoy and by extension that Russians had ever entered into East Ukraine.
Unless, of course, there is evidence in the form of wrecked vehicles that something had happened, in which case the eye witness reports from the Guardian and Telegraph reporters (who, no matter what you think of their respective papers, are not idiots) are valid but a misunderstanding of what was seen.
More to the point, the onus is on Ukraine to present some evidence, in fact any evidence, of a destroyed Russian military convoy instead of merely building upon a story conceived by the two UK media outlets, because if Ukraine indeed has no evidence, then its story falls apart and what’s worse, the credibility and reputation of its government, of NATO and certainly of the UK press would be in tatters.
So if Ukraine did not destroy a Russian convoy because there was no Russian convoy, but the British reporters saw wreckage that was evidence of an attack, what other possibility is there? Well, one that would destroy the credibility of the Ukraine government even more comprehensively than being caugh lying again, namely that in their enthusiasm for blowing things up, the Ukrainian military may have destroyed a convoy of its own military vehicles. A possible lead to such a turn of events comes from this Interfax report citing the leadership of the breakaway Donetsk People’s Republic.
“The leadership of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic has dismissed the Ukrainian government’s statement on destroying a convoy of what appeared to be Russian armored vehicles in eastern Ukraine.
“We haven’t received any armored vehicles from Russia. No Russian units, including Russian armored vehicles, have crossed the border. Hence, no Russian armored vehicles could have been destroyed,” DPR First Deputy Prime Minister Andrei Purgin told Interfax on Friday evening.
But perhaps the most damning evidence comes from none other than the White House itself, which according to CNN just admitted that while it accuses Moscow of “incursions” it can’t confirm the convoy was destroyed by Kiev.
So as I said, this post is to help readers deal with pro war trolls, sick neo-fascist freaks that they are. It shows how to assemble evidence from many sources and analyse it. Trolls have no use for evidence, they work for one side or the other and merely repeat propaganda. And you’ve seen above how reliable a source propaganda is.
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